Flight Loads

by Kerwin McKenzie

Flight Loads

 

This is the number one  issue that you have. As you now though, this information is propriety to each airline and is well guarded for competitive reasons. This page will try to help you as much as possible with information that is publicly available.

Here is a list that shows you what public tools the airlines provide for you as well as other revenue customers. Check back often as I’ll be adding more airlines as I research the information:

 

 

Alaska Airlines (AS) – Based in Seattle/Tacoma, WA (SEA), this airline primarily flies a fleet of Boeing airplanes.They recently acquired Virgin America (VX) which has Airbus airplanes which are being painted in the Alaska Airlines colors.There’s also Horizon Air which flies as the Express carrier for Alaska.Alaska typically serves the U.S. West coast and also has flights to Canada, across the U.S. as well as Hawaii and Mexico.

 

American Airlines (AA) – Based in Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW), American has hubs/focus cities in the following cities:

  • — Charlotte, NC (CLT)
  • — Chicago-O’Hare, IL (ORD)
  • — New York-JFK, NY (JFK)
  • — Philadelphia, PA (PHL
  • — Pittsburgh, PA (PIT)

 

 

British Airways (BA) – Based in London-Heathrow, England (LHR), British Airways also has flights operating from nearby London-Gatwick, England (LGW). They serve destinations in Europe and worldwide.

 

 

Delta Air Lines (DL) – Headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia USA (ATL), Delta operates from the following hubs around the world:

  • — Atlanta, GA (ATL)
  • — Amsterdam, Netherlands (AMS)
  • — Boston, MA (BOS)
  • — Detroit, MI (DTW)
  • — Los Angeles, CA (LAX)
  • — Minneapolis, MN (MSP)
  • — New York-JFK (JFK)
  • — Paris-Charles de Gaulle (CDG)
  • — Salt Lake City, UT (SLC)
  • — Seattle-Tacoma, WA (SEA)
  • — Tokyo-Narita, Japan (NRT)

 

 

Frontier (F9) – Based in Denver, CO (DEN), Frontier is a low cost carrier with flights throughout the U.S. Mexico and the Dominican Republic.

 

 

United Airlines (UA) – Based in Chicago O’Hare, IL (ORD), United has several hubs around the globe. In my opinion they have the best public access to finding your place on the standing list. There hubs/focus cities are located in:

  • — Chicago-O’Hare, IL (ORD)
  • — Guam (GUM)
  • — Houston-Intercontinental, TX (IAH)
  • — Los Angeles, CA (LAX)
  • — Newark, NJ (EWR)
  • — San Francisco, CA (SFO)
  • — Tokyo-Narita, Japan (NRT)
  • — Washington-Dulles, D.C. (IAD)

 

 

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{ 20 comments… read them below or add one }

avatar Francisco Navas February 8, 2016 at 10:03 pm

Would appreciate any information in regards to my travel as an employee to UA

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avatar Kerwin McKenzie February 8, 2016 at 11:42 pm

Hi Francisco,

Thanks for the note.
What kind of information are you looking for?

Kerwin
http://www.Passrider.com
http://www.Facebook.com/Passrider

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avatar Corky February 8, 2016 at 10:38 pm

F9 uses www.id90travel.com and the flight page has a place where you click. You can see the load as well as where you are in line.

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avatar Kerwin McKenzie February 8, 2016 at 11:43 pm

Hi Corky,

Thanks for the note.
Do you use ID90Travel for just F9 information? Or do you use it to see your position on the standby list on other flights?

Kerwin
http://www.Passrider.com
http://www.Facebook.com/Passrider

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avatar Jimmy Gartman February 8, 2016 at 10:56 pm

By far United’s app is the best, to get info about Delta flights I go to there website(the full html version) from there you need to act like your booking a flight.  After you enter your departure, destination & date, you can see all the flights and select view seats.  It’s not as easy as United’s app, it does give you a good idea of open seats.

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avatar Kerwin McKenzie February 8, 2016 at 11:47 pm

Hi Jimmy,

Thanks for the note.
I would agree about the United App being the best on the market. I’ve used many of the other Apps and you are correct. United also shows you similar functionality that you described above for Delta, but remember that the seat map just shows seats that are assigned/not assigned. While this gives you an idea, remember that there are customers who have bought a ticket and have not assigned a seat. So the flight could be overbooked and the seat map still shows seats unassigned. Also some seats could be blocked as well.

Kerwin
http://www.Passrider.com
http://www.Facebook.com/Passrider

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avatar Shelley February 9, 2016 at 3:51 am

Kerwin, you are so right! I tested this method by choosing a date LAX-SYD on UA. Looked at their website, it showed many open seats including 36 in biz class. I then had someone check the loads. Guess what??? Oversold in Y and to capacity in biz! So there goes that idea. Too many people buy airline tickets on Orbitz, Travelocity, Expedia, etc. The seats they THINK they are being assigned (if they even get this far) are not reserved only requested. So do not show up on the airline’s site. I use Non-Rev Loads on FB a lot.

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avatar Kerwin McKenzie February 9, 2016 at 4:54 am
avatar Anders December 17, 2017 at 12:05 pm

Got that…what’s the solution?

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avatar Nioka February 9, 2016 at 7:24 pm

Please explain how to see non-rev loads on FB.

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avatar Terry Strahm December 19, 2016 at 3:57 pm

Hi Kevin
I’m a retired flight attendant from Frontier Airlines. We travel non-rev back and forth to France several times a year. I do have a question. I just booked a flight on Icelandair and they show the following information on the two flight under the heading FLIGHT DETAILS: The (M9) on both flights are highlighted. This has never showed up before. The flight is listed on w.w.w.myidtravel.com with a yellow happy face meaning it is fair for non-rev. Do you know what this means??

CDG to KEF
Seats available C9 D9 J9 Z6 Y2 A2 E0 I0 R0 (M9) B9 K9 Q9 T4 V0 H0 G0 L0 S0 O0 N0 U0 P0 X0 W0

KEF to DEN
Seats available C6 D0 J0 Z0 Y8 A2 E0 I2 R2 (M9) B9 K9 Q9 T9 V9 H4 G0 L1 S0 O0 N0 U0 P0 X0 W0

Enjoy your Passrider infor, Terry

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avatar Russ April 25, 2017 at 2:36 pm

would love to be able to see available seats on Southwest flights.

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avatar Becky May 20, 2017 at 5:44 pm

I am planning to travel to Dublin. It looks like I will have to fly to either CDG or AMS on my airline (Delta) and grab a ZED fare out of there either on Air France or KLM. Do you know if my luggage can be checked all the way thru and will it go there without me? I’m probably going to be making lots of last minute diecisions.
Thanks

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avatar Chan Kuhn March 26, 2018 at 11:48 pm

Most likely not and it is a pain in the neck. You have to check it to your first destination, pick up your bags and get to the tkt counter of your next/final destination for check-in and to check your bags. Leave plenty of time to do all these things. We missed our OA connection and had to run all over LHR to find someone who knew how to re-list and then get to the tkt counter to check bags. Then the trek to the gate. This took over an hour! Exhausting!!

When I worked for AA I would book a dummy segment or segments to the final destination and check the bag all the way . Easy but AA won’t do it any more either. So I can’t stress enough to leave plenty of time to handle any problems.

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avatar Iris Rose November 17, 2017 at 4:18 pm

Hi is there anyone on this site who can help me with Kenya Airways loads?

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avatar John P Joyce December 16, 2017 at 3:26 am

Kerwin, talk to me about Singapore. Planning a trip soon with family. thanks

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avatar Kerwin McKenzie December 16, 2017 at 6:01 am
avatar Anders December 17, 2017 at 12:03 pm

Hello Kerwin: I have 2 questions…
Is there a way to see loads/seats on Lufthansa?

Is there a way to get the “ads” on your website to not cover-up your material? Makes for very hard reading.

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avatar BRIAN March 18, 2018 at 11:33 am

Kerwin,

Looking for seat availability for next Sunday AA FLT 3092- FWA TO ORD
. Thanx

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avatar jimmy caniff May 9, 2018 at 7:10 pm

Hello, trying to find seat availability on Air Portugal flight 1867 from Lisbon to Sao Miguel on Monday the 14th of May. Any help is appreciated

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